FEI Internet Live Stream WC-Finals Las Vegas blocked for ....

fr*estyle2music said: On the FEI website we can read that the Internet Live broadcast of the WorldCup in Las Vegas is GEO-blocked for the following countries : France,Italy,Sweden, The Netherlanda and the USA. http://www.feitv.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Live/0,,12664,00.html So I think I will start selling some IP-adresses on Ebay ;) :confused:

B*tterflyIris said: Why would they do that? What countries will have the live internet broadcast and will it be free to them? I so confused.

fr*estyle2music said: Why would they do that? What countries will have the live internet broadcast and will it be free to them? I so confused. Streaming from the FEI website is not for FREE. ;) In the country mentioned the broadcast rights are bought by National Television. And it's no secret that they mostly broadcasts a small compilation of the equestrian sport. But don't worry there are many roads to Rome. Theo

T*nyanoel said: This always upsets me, there is always sooo much talk about making dressage more popular, more accessible, bla bla bla but when it comes down to it some groups are just not willing to go that extra few steps to make it possible. Now, the World Cup is in my HOME country which is a thrill but the US won't have streaming video - really, is someone smokin' crack???? Sent them an e-mail, and I am not one to send angry e-mails since they don't do a lot of good, but this makes me mad so I did.

fr*estyle2music said: It could very well be the case that NBC is streaming it via the internet for the USA and Canada. It also supprises me that Germany is not on this list of GEO-blocked countries :confused: Theo

mvp said: Yes, they are smoking crack.... but not without hoping to turn a profit selling you your fix, too. An enterprising junkie will always find a way, of course.

C*reene said: If you are in the crowd with a big ass Dutch flag during either final, you will be prominently featured on Dutch television. ;) :yes:

B*tterflyIris said: I'm really not against people making a profit on the hard work that they do setting up cameras and equipment, hiring operators, stuff like that; but to make the entire broadcast available only in a crappy, extensively editted, chopped up version really sucks. In an ideal world, if these broadcasters want to turn a profit, make the videos available on-line in entirety for a reasonable price and SAVE them so people can watch them as they have time. But to be honest, I don't know if I would pay for it and I think I speak for many others. We've gone this long in the desert with little U.S. broadcasting of our sport... what's another competition? Why not make it freely broadcasted on-line and have sponsor banners on the side or in the beginning, much like this site or what they did with the Olympics? Who WOULD pay for WORLD CUP broadcasting, out of curiosity?

fr*estyle2music said: But how about paying last week and finding out today that the WC-Finals at Vegas are not broadcasted ?!:mad: in our country :confused:

*majicadutch said: Theo, If you paid them last week expecting to see the WC, I would demand the money back. That is just ridiculous. I sent an angry email, as well.

fr*estyle2music said: Theo, If you paid them last week expecting to see the WC, I would demand the money back. That is just ridiculous. On the other hand, won't there be someone from Holland doing a live stream, as well? Does anyone know how we can see it here? First let me congratulate you with the recent succes of Lizz & Olivier. Offcourse I will get the videos of Las Vegas up and running, but WHY does it allways has to be such a fuzzzzzzzz when it comes down to the USA. It's so funny and strange because in the countries where dressage is very populair (meaning you can make money out of it) all competitions, clinics,shows etc are broadcasted on TV and on the Internet for FREE. Theo

s*egi b. said: I don't get it either.... When they finally broadcast the bits and pieces that they deem appropriate for the US viewer, they get some dummy announcer that makes it even worse. Wouldn't it be nice if somebody who actually knew about the sport (Anne Gribbons, Linda Zang, etc. etc.) commented on the top rides? Heck, the American public might actually learn something about dressage.....

c*nyonoak said: According to his blog, the US commentator on NBC Universal (not NBC) will be Robert Dover.

*quibrit said: It also makes anybody infringing on their (FEI/NBC) broadcast rights liable to a lawsuit. NONE of these events are broadcast for free. The FEI SELLS the rights to broadcasters. The only thing that differs is the method of payment by the end user. So - Theo, you should be expecting a knock on the door and a man handing you papers ! You can find the schedule for the USA broadcast here; http://www.universalsports.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=23000&KEY=&SPID=11665&SPSID=105633 Channels per State here; http://www.universalsports.tv/Universal_Sports_on_TV.html

c*nyonoak said: never mind. the silliness on these BBs just keeps rolling along

C*tOnLap said: aside from that, it is common practice here for any sport- hockey, boxing, whatever, to be blocked from broadcast in the city/province where the game is being played in order to encourage spctators to go to the venue instead. They are available "Pay per view" for live broadcasts elsewhere. I think its dumb to block the local broadcasts frankly, because the big matches are always sold out so even if I wanted to, I can't get tickets to see them live. And I don't mind paying to see the live broadcasts. But our local pay per view carrier doesn't have any horse channels. But why would anyone expect dressage sport to be different? I am quite pleased that sometimes the Canadian Broadcasting Company will display the major Spruce Meadows tourneys for free either live or within a day or two. But alas- that's all jumping.

C*lhoun said: What? I'm going to miss Robert Dover's debut as an announcer. Dag, I was looking forward to this and had my DVR set.

*venter13 said: It also makes anybody infringing on their (FEI/NBC) broadcast rights liable to a lawsuit. NONE of these events are broadcast for free. The FEI SELLS the rights to broadcasters. The only thing that differs is the method of payment by the end user. So - Theo, you should be expecting a knock on the door and a man handing you papers ! You can find the schedule for the USA broadcast here; http://www.universalsports.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=23000&KEY=&SPID=11665&SPSID=105633 Channels per State here; http://www.universalsports.tv/Universal_Sports_on_TV.html Can you ONLY get TV coverage from Universal Sports? B/c it sure as hell isn't available in the majority of the US. If you don't get the channel, are you simply SOL? I guess I should just be happy Rolex will also have a 1-hour program on NBC, so at least I'll get to see SOME of that.

*quibrit said: I think NBC want to encourage people to lobby their Satellite/Cable companies to carry Universal Sports.

tw*fatponies said: Can't they just chuck the stuff on pay-per-view, and let people pay to see it? Or pay-per-internet-view, whatever. It gets so complicated! I tried to figure out how to watch the Burghley coverage on the internet (and I would have paid a few dollars to see some of it), but it was utterly impossible to figure out where it was; or maybe it wasn't compatible with my browser or something. I buy DVDs of events, and I order pay-per-view movies and stuff on TV. I would pay to see GOOD coverage of events online, but only if it was super easy to do - like YouTube + Paypal (I get a cut of that idea if YouTube uses it!) I won't spend 15 minutes or more trying to register, login, navigate, download, etc.

*quibrit said: PPV http://www.universalsports.com/FAQs.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=23000

k*rin o said: Its takes a long time to get to Rome, lots of trails, but we promise you that this years coverage of the World Cup Las Vegas will be super. Come see in in person, better yet, but support, encourage, ask, buy it, rent it, tell your friends about it. We have an opportunity here - the first live broadcast of our sport, please its going to be great.....support the effort, its not easy in the big ole USA. Robert Dover will be the analyst, and you will not be disappointed. Bob Hughes is the producer and has promised a great shoe, I mean show !!! Follow the links, that everyone is posting.

*rathita said: Karin, Who is the "we" you are referring to?

*quibrit said: Karin, Who is the "we" you are referring to? http://www.offieldfarms.com/ click on the Television banner.

k*rin o said: My tv banner has NOTHING to do with this post, I am trying to tell you that we need to support the tv coverage we are getting and to follow the links that are being posted for more info. We, I use loosely, meaning the general equestrians that want to see horse sports on TV, NBC's Universal is giving us an opportunity. I am suggesting WE support it, simple as that. Karin Offield

*quibrit said: My tv banner has NOTHING to do with this post, I am trying to tell you that we need to support the tv coverage we are getting and to follow the links that are being posted for more info. We, I use loosely, meaning the general equestrians that want to see horse sports on TV, NBC's Universal is giving us an opportunity. I am suggesting WE support it, simple as that. Karin Offield 'Scuse me. Must have been the royal "we" in the previous post then ? "but we promise you that this years coverage of the World Cup Las Vegas will be super" On the other hand I am a "general equestrian" myself, I have absolutely no desire to make that promise !

c*nyonoak said: But NBC Universal is not available to many areas/many potential audience/etc etc. And World Cup is less than 2 weeks away.

slc2 said: Sorry karin o, spring always gets the baby boomers a little querrelous.

*quibrit said: Or their noses get browner.

K*ljoywashere said: I've attended the last two times it was in Vegas, and will do so again this time. I bought the DVDs each time as well. The first time the video company sent me two copies of one of the set, and left off the other. I emailed them, and they sent me out the missing DVD immediately - it arrived two days later, and they didn't want me to bother with sending the duplicated one back, so I gave it to my instructor. The one thing about the DVD that amused me was the cameramen and the editors were really good, and cut all the camera angles so that the rider with the incredibly bad, punishing hands was never shown. There's a horse doing a Grand Prix test, and all you ever see of the rider is her legs, never her hands. Not that that was hard, since as I recall the test, the hands were never anywhere near the horse's withers, where they might have shown up in a shot of the horse.

fr*estyle2music said: I read on many of the European Bulletin Boards that one of the major problems with these kind of broadcasts is that these companies have a tunnel view when it comes down to get your subscriptions arranged. Don't these people understand that 85% of their possible cliënts don't have a credit card. Why not add Paypal, Ideal, Banctransfer etc.. This way they get manyyyyyyy more subscribers and can lower the prices.:cool:;) @ Equibrit : You seem to forget that the NOS (Dutch National BroadCasters) bought the rights for the Netherlands so we don't have anything to do with NBC or or or..... So....NOS will broadcast all the rides of the Dutch, ZDF and WDF will broadcast all the rides of the Germans, SVE wil broadcast the Swedish rider, Danish etc......... And.......the American riders will be on YouTube within a second from their Halt and Final Salut. Theo

*venter13 said: Don't these people understand that 85% of their possible cliënts don't have a credit card. Imagine if that were true over here in the US. Isn't the average number something outrageous, like... 10 per person?

fr*estyle2music said: Imagine if that were true over here in the US. Isn't the average number something outrageous, like... 10 per person? When you run your own businnes over here you have to deliver you "facts and figures" of the last three years before you can receive a creditcard. When you are under 18 you don't get a creditcard. And the rest don't need a creditcard, because we use a BancCard. CreditCards over here are only polulair by people who travel a lot (hotel, renting a car). Theo

*quibrit said: @ Equibrit : You seem to forget that the NOS (Dutch National BroadCasters) bought the rights for the Netherlands so we don't have anything to do with NBC or or or..... So....NOS will broadcast all the rides of the Dutch, ZDF and WDF will broadcast all the rides of the Germans, SVE wil broadcast the Swedish rider, Danish etc......... And.......the American riders will be on YouTube within a second from their Halt and Final Salut. Theo That does not mean that you can advertise and provide content to an audience in the USA. You are one of the reasons that broadcasters don't want to buy the programming for the USA. The audience here is small enough without folks like you narrowing it down further.

f*ona said: and lots of us don't do paypal!

*venter13 said: When you run your own businnes over here you have to deliver you "facts and figures" of the last three years before you can receive a creditcard. When you are under 18 you don't get a creditcard. And the rest don't need a creditcard, because we use a BancCard. CreditCards over here are only polulair by people who travel a lot (hotel, renting a car). Theo So you have to prove that you're financially capable first. What a concept!

fr*estyle2music said: So you have to prove that you're financially capable first. What a concept! Yes and No When you have Euro 1000,= on your account you can spend Euro 1000,= with your BancCard. If more countries would have followed these rules the world wouldn't be in a financial crisis now. ;):yes: But this might be food for another topic

mxk*xtended said: Thanks for all this info. I'd planned to sign up for the FEI webcast, but now I find I can see it for free (yes, it seems I do have Universal Sports) This is going to be so much better than two years ago. My friends and I watched a 10pm broadcast about the World Cup for 57 minutes of jumping and 3 minutes of flashs, mostly of Isabel. What a waste of time! (yes, I did buy the DVD later) Looking forward to seeing the Grand Prix even more than the Freestyles

k*rin o said: NBC Universal Sports brought us the Olympics, and now they are picking up the World Cup. That means they believe in us. Bob Hughe's has worked hard to make sure this happens. Keep following the links, support the progress we are making and make sure that you understand that some may be live and other parts will be webcast/streamed. Be informed so you won't be disappointed. A lot of people are trying hard to make this a great broadcast. If there are problems that you don't like or approve of, lets not complain to NBC Universal - right now they are supporting us, by airing the sport. Thanks in advance and see you in Las Vegas ! Its going to be a great World Cup. ko

K*luna said: It seems to me that NBC Universal is taking a financial risk on dressage by "selling it" to us, not airing it with advertisers paying for it. Did I miss the link to free live streaming like the Olympics (I may have...). If I pay for it and there are problems, NBC Universal shall hear about it. They believe in "us" as a potential market, not as sport enthusiasts. Lets be realistic.

K*luna said: Yes and No When you have Euro 1000,= on your account you can spend Euro 1000,= with your BancCard. If more countries would have followed these rules the world wouldn't be in a financial crisis now. ;):yes: But this might be food for another topic Don't you wish it was this simplistic.




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