Dressage saddles with SHORT flaps?

*lterageous said: I'm on a hunt for a second dressage saddle...I have a custom Black Country Vinici that fits perfectly but does not fit my new project horse at ALL. I refuse to sell it, so I need something else for him--but the catch is, I'm 5'1 and 112lbs, so I need SHORT flaps. My inseam is 28". Is anything available with SHORT flaps as an option, in the $2000 and under price range? That's all I can really scrounge up at the moment, as he also needs a new jump saddle as well, and those I generally have to go expensive on to fit me :( TIA for any help!

S*llyHorse said: See if you can find a used Trilogy Debbie McDonald to try.

S*ndy M said: You might check with Smith-Worthington. I'm 5'7" and my S-W Maxx fits me fine, but it has a noticeably shorter flap than most dressage saddles I see. I think some of their saddles are "semi-custom," and might be available with shorter flaps (as opposed to their fully-custom saddle that's about $4K).

*lterageous said: Has anyone heard anything about the Detente Pheobe? Most children's saddles fit me except the flap is a little small width wise, though right in the length.

HCF said: Not sure what seat size and tree width you need, but a search in the Dressage saddles section of eBay brought up these: http://desc.shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmdZ1?_nkw=short+flap&_sacat=47282&LH_TitleDesc=1&_fromfsb=&_trksid=p3286.m270.l1313&_odkw=&_osacat=47282&_rdc=1 Maybe there's something in there you can use???

*nsideLeg2OutsideRein said: Custom saddlery saddles come in short flaps (as well as regular and long), you can find a used one for around 2k : ). www.mysaddle.com

dr*ssagediosa said: Has anyone heard anything about the Detente Pheobe? Most children's saddles fit me except the flap is a little small width wise, though right in the length. I love the Detente saddles - I've got half my barn in them. Advanced Saddle Fit is a pleasure to work with, and they can order what you need if they don't have it in stock. I also have a client thinking of selling her W? (maybe MW?) Albion SLK with short flaps, 17.5. PM me if that might work for your horse, and I'll give her your email address.

*lterageous said: I am also sort of wondering about the new Wintec Pro Pony...it comes in 16" but the seat looks pretty flat and I wonder if that would fit.

gr*hamcracker said: Albion saddles come in short flaps. I'm only 5'3'' and I love my Albion.

*mbrey said: I'm on a hunt for a second dressage saddle...I have a custom Black Country Vinici that fits perfectly but does not fit my new project horse at ALL. I refuse to sell it, so I need something else for him--but the catch is, I'm 5'1 and 112lbs, so I need SHORT flaps. My inseam is 28". Is anything available with SHORT flaps as an option, in the $2000 and under price range? That's all I can really scrounge up at the moment, as he also needs a new jump saddle as well, and those I generally have to go expensive on to fit me :( TIA for any help! My mom just got a Neidersuss Symphony in the smaller size (just under 17"). It has very short flaps and is absolutely perfect for petite riders!

*lterageous said: Unfortunately, an Albion is out of my price range, even used. I'm finding very few used for under $2k. I am trying to avoid ebay as I am very wary of sending $2000 to someone I don't know and having only paypal as my recourse. I'd prefer to buy new (I was hoping to find something new and in stock) as this horse doesn't fit into any of my saddles and I need to find something relatively soon. He's being ridden in a borrowed Bates Innova right now which is miles too big for me (in the seat as well as the flap which comes down to my ankle) so that can only go on for so long. I'd buy used from a reputable store. I'll PM you, dressagediosa.

*mbrey said: http://www.saddlesource.com/proddetail.asp?prod=B28488

L*soluv said: My friend is 5' 1" and loves her Bates Innova!

*limikaSportPonies said: I have a prestige lucky which is the childrens model and I love it. I am 5"1 and it fits me as well as most of the ponies I ride! I think it runs around $1700.

M*llard said: I am also petite and recently spent weeks trying saddles. Ended up with a Schleese JES Elite. Not in your price range, but perhaps you can find a used one. I also tried a Stubben Juventus - this is their pony dressage saddle Barnsby has a junior model, too. Amerigo Vega flaps are also short, but they're priced well over $3k Here's a great saddle http://www.ridgemountsaddlery.com/Ridgemount_Used_Saddles.asp I tried it. Pony loved it. My coach loved it. I found it a bit narrow.

p*tch work farm said: Sounds like you have gotten some great advice and suggestions. Being short, I had to have my Albion, as well as Hennig both custom made for me and you are right, not many to be had at $2K or under. I was told that I could have a flap "cut down" if needed so you might want to check into having that done if you find a longer flap saddle that you like? I can recommend the person who said he would do it for me if you'd like. Where are you located?

*lterageous said: Sounds like you have gotten some great advice and suggestions. Being short, I had to have my Albion, as well as Hennig both custom made for me and you are right, not many to be had at $2K or under. I was told that I could have a flap "cut down" if needed so you might want to check into having that done if you find a longer flap saddle that you like? I can recommend the person who said he would do it for me if you'd like. Where are you located? I am currently in Northern VT but am soon to be relocating to Middleburg, VA. I found that having flaps cut down, specifically flaps with knee pads, was a fairly expensive job, usually around $200-$300, more in a saddle with point billeting. It sounded easier to just try to find one made that way in the first place. I might be able to scrounge up a little more, which would put me in the price range of getting a second black country made, hence why I was looking for less than that if possible. Sometimes I seriously consider developing a saddle company for the short/fat/ultra tall/otherwise mutant among us.

*vntr06 said: If you're going to be relocating to Middleburg soon, they have Middleburg Tack exchange which has loads of used saddles in your price range. I am having similar problem. I need a saddle with short flaps and narrow twist on a smaller budget, and nothing seems to really fit!

ch*r6780 said: The junior is a short flap. Nice saddle in the price range. Supposedly fits most horses. Ebay has some used ones for sale.

p*tch work farm said: I like your theory of creating the maker of the "not off the shelf, typical size/standard"! I was just recently in Middleburg Tack Exchange-did not go downstairs where the saddles are, but she said they had moved saddles consistently all winter (I asked how business had been). They typically do not "like" to carry much dressage stuff (although they usually do have some choices in saddles). Every time I take anything in there they look miserable about my "dressage wear" but I have to say, they ALWAYS sell it. I don't know if Journeyman does any saddle alterations and how $$$ they would be to adjust a flap. When I was in the Tack Exchange they mentioned that there is a new guy at Journeyman who is amazing??? If you are moving here, at least you have these options.

*lterageous said: Unfortunately, the problem i'm having is both that the flap itself is too long, but also that the blocks are in place for someone who is 4" or so taller, and thus are forward of where I need them to be and too low. I am beginning to think my options are to purchase a saddle with no or very small blocks, or just bite the bullet and get two custom saddles. I can get another vinici and a custom jump saddle from Black Country for about what a custom Schleese or similar would cost me, which is of course more money than I have.

h*ser1 said: I just skimmed this thread quickly so apologize if someone already suggested this, but Prestige makes a youth dressage saddle called the Lucky that has very short flaps and comes in a good variety of trees. I have one and like it - I am your same size. It was only $1750 or thereabouts and is very good quality. VTO Saddlery online carries them and have superb customer service - they will let you try a new one if it's in stock. Good luck - sometimes being petite feels like a handicap when shopping for riding goods!




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